April 17, 2014
"Emma Swan is not an easy character to play. She suppresses her emotions after a lifetime of loneliness, only showing them in the subtlest change of expression until they all come out in bursts of vulnerability that surprise even her. Emma is strong, but she’s also incredibly broken. And it takes an actress of considerable talent and also considerable love for this kind of character in order to bring her to life successfully. Morrison is so adept at showing every complicated facet of Emma’s character—her awkwardness and her innate ability to lead; her fear of opening up and her intense vulnerability; her ability to love and her inability to fully accept love from others. Emma grounds this fantasy show in real, human drama, and Morrison grounds Emma with real, human emotions."

— Best Performances of 2013: Jennifer Morrison [x] (via onceuponamirror)

(Source: forevercaptainswan, via chris-lll)

April 17, 2014

bellegold:

{make me choose}

↳ sassymajesty asked cora or zelena

(via venus-kareng)

April 17, 2014
onceuponatime-confessions:

“It’s sad but I think next season will be the last.”

onceuponatime-confessions:

It’s sad but I think next season will be the last.”

(via rumbellebr)

April 16, 2014
tanya-posts:

mysharona1987:

Margaery was only married to Joffrey for like an hour, and it was STILL way too long for her.

hahaha bes gif ever! 
Literally laughed out loud at that one. 

tanya-posts:

mysharona1987:

Margaery was only married to Joffrey for like an hour, and it was STILL way too long for her.

hahaha bes gif ever! 

Literally laughed out loud at that one. 

(via sassyqueenofswan)

April 16, 2014

Hi, I’m Natalie Dormer and I’m from a show on HBO called Game of Thrones. And there’s a few secrets about Season Four that I’d like to get off my chest. [x]

(Source: imgoingtodrinkmymugoftea, via atlas-66)

April 16, 2014

stormqueen:

   favourite once upon a time moments: 3.17 the jolly roger

(via fuckyeshermajesty)

April 16, 2014

foxmurphy:

Belle’s asking the important questions here

(via dianamustang1)

April 16, 2014
"The grappler, yeah- people love the grappler.
You read it in the script and you’re like ‘oh that’s so cool, I get a grappler, I’ll just whip it out
I was dressed as Lara Croft in the smallest outfit that anyone has ever worn in Warehouse 13, and at one point it’s like she pulls the grappler out- I’m like, WHERE does she pull the grappler out from? So, basically the grappler is twice as big as me, and we kinda just pull it out from my armpit. It’s like, aha, that’s where the grappler came from!"

— Jaime Murray (via abdayw)

(via unicarna)

April 16, 2014

richardcfarmitage:

marinashutup:

in which the actor who plays one of television’s least likable characters is actually super considerate and cool

(x)

(Source: kazuos, via greyella)

April 16, 2014

etotheswan:

teeleefree:

mizz-magenta:

teeleefree:

ilovereginamills:

REGINA IS SO CUTE HERE OMG IM CRYING

Seriously. The way she plays with her hands in the last gif. Lana is such an amazing actress!

No but can we talk about Emma and how she doesn’t get defensive when Regina has a ‘mom-moment’ and how she lets her handle the situation. She doesn’t even look mad, just sad that Regina has to play the mayor card then slightly amused at the lame excuse she rattles off. As much as Emma has talked about not wanting Henry to get his memories back, I don’t think that includes Regina. I think if there was a way to explain to Henry that Regina is his mom too without mentioning curses, fairytale characters, or false memories, she would do that in a heartbeat.

Yes!

REBLOGGING THIS FOREVER

But what about the way where they pretend they’re ex-lovers?

(Source: exodusofmetaphors, via n3v3r-mnd)

April 16, 2014

(Source: yahooentertainment, via gigi2690)

April 16, 2014

(Source: vargesz)

April 16, 2014

yourmajestymills:

"We just checked in on them on…

Skype”

bUT HENRY’S ‘SEEMS LEGIT’ FACE

(via snarkastically-swanqueen)

April 16, 2014
insanetwin:

ohthesefeelingz:

insanetwin:

ohthesefeelingz:

enjoythatenjoyment:

answeringconfessions:

enjoythatenjoyment:

Is this Leo? 
If this is Leo…
Ok, I said this to a friend on skype. Pretend you’re Zelena (and don’t hate Regina yet) It’s like this: 
Imagine you are abandoned forever as a baby. Just dropped off in the woods. Your bio parents had the sex and produced you, then something happened and they broke up. Your sister was born a while later. 
Your sister, during her senior year of high school, really wanted to marry the nerdy guy who smelled like hay. He was kind of shy, didn’t understand cruelty and meanness, and got his heart crushed by your mom. He was never seen again. Then your sister, 18 and a little tomboy, a little dorky with her horse tshirts and big smiles, had to get married to your father. 
That’s right. Your mom and dad agreed that your baby sister had to marry your dad. She was forced to. She ended up marrying him. Your dad. 
But maybe it’s not Leo. Maybe this guy was just pretending to be him and Leo… the person your mom thought this was… was another old bald guy your pigtailed little sis was sold off to. 
How fucked up is this family show on basic tv? 

Accept that Leopold isn’t Zelena’s dad. Cora meets Leopold after she’s already pregnant. Which she got knocked up by some drunk pretending to be a prince at a bar. Doesn’t anyone read press releases?

Accept it? Yeah, I’ll happily accept it. Maybe the guy that knocked her up is some other guy. Except that If this dude is Leo, this dude right up there, it’s still mightily fucked up for Regina later on. I mean, can you tell me what’s going on in that pic even with the press releases? I’m not sure you can, because none of us have seen the show.
What I’m about, and I’m telling you though you likely don’t care, isn’t so much figuring out what’s going on up there and more “This show is so fucked up with their family blood relationships.” And isn’t it? 
And yet, people have a hard time seeing adoption as being valid parenthood when they talk about this show. They have a hard time talking about how lgbt true love on this show could be a good thing (and I’m not just talking about SQ. I’m actually thinking more about Sleeping Warrior and how much they screwed up that pairing). 
It’s like these weird incestual relationships are perfectly ok on basic tv. Rape is fine for basic as long as there’s a tab A and slot B involved. Nothing wrong with that. God forbid Jefferson likes the D, or something god awful like that.
And just to clarify: when I say rape I’m referring to what happened to that young high school age girl with the bright smile that was married off to a guy who, in this world, would have had his AARP card for like ten years already at that point. It is just so fucked up even more that he’s a part of the story next Sunday in any form. Barf!

Let me get in this discussion by stating how thoroughly appalled I am that Cora kissing Leopold is even a possibility for next episode.
The worst that could happen is Leopold is Zelena’s father. If that is true, I will be forever bitter at OUAT and never trust the writers again. I mean, is it possible to stoop any lower than having a mother who abandons one daughter and then marries off her second daughter to the father of the first one? That is so many levels of disturbing I think I might need to go check the NC-17 episodes of Law&Order: SVU.
But lucky for us there’s other possibilities in the horizon:
- Cora and Leopold randomly hook up once but he’s not Zelena’s father
- Cora and Leopold have an affair but he’s not Zelena’s father
And, the least problematic of all options but of course, this being OUAT, still problematic:
- Cora tries to seduce Leopold but he refuses her - and this is problematic because it will imply that Cora somehow managed to have a lifelong obsession with the man to the point of giving him her daughter since she could never have him. It also cheats the viewers into thinking Leopold is not responsible for marrying an 18 year-old, with all the marital duties that come with that. No, poor little Leopold was driven into such marriage by evil Cora.
So yeah, any way we twist it, it’s horrible that OUAT decided to have Cora and Leopold kissing. It’s horrible because it’ll make a woman the most awfully, shamelessly evil villain in the entire show AND because it has such fucked up undertones of sexual abuse that it hurts me just thinking about it. Because, you know, if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her and do you know what you do with objects? You use them any way you please.
We already know Cora was an abusive monster. We did not need to live with the implications that Cora was a sexually abusive monster. Which, of course, will never be stated in the show - but it’ll be there, looming in the shadows.

“if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her” This is well stated and I think it’s important to bring up because I have always thought that this is exactly the relationship Cora has (had) with her daughter. 
For the majority of her life, and all of Regina’s, Cora did not possess a heart. Without it, what would keep her from seeing her daughter as only a means to accomplish what she wants. I totally understand the disgust with the implications of sexual abuse, especially if it is not treated properly on the show, but to me, Cora’s relationship with her daughter has always been this way - objectifying and heartless - until the very end where we see the immense regret she finally feels. Until then, however, we see Cora’s accepting Regina’s proposal for her, killing the only happiness she has ever known, abusing her, and even waiting in a coffin pretending to be dead so that she can kill her daughter.
 I will be upset if the writers do not state what has been done to Regina or if the rest of the characters witnessing any of this do not comprehend or reflect upon this at all. If this really does happen, and it only paints a more painful picture of Regina’s mostly unspoken past without setting anything up for some type of resolution, then I really will be pissed. 

I completely understand your POV and it makes a lot of sense to me. However, one of my biggest problems with this storyline arising is that OUAT is not known for the way it deals with horrific pasts and consequences of actions, so if it is indeed true that Cora objectified Regina to the point of sexual abuse… it’ll only be brushed under the carpet never to be spoken about again. And that is deeply disturbing, because the viewers will be left with many upsetting implications and no way of coping with them.
Now, I don’t think they’d go the sexual abuse route (not consciously anyway *ahem, Regina+Graham, Regina+Leopold*), but this storyline poses problems in many other ways. Will Cora love Leopold and thus be bitter with Eva not only because she felt like scum but also because Eva took her man? Will they make Cora, a villain who so refreshingly was just about power, be yet another victim of the “revenge because of love” trope?
And if Cora was with Leopold, wouldn’t he remember her? How on earth does he end up married to her daughter? Will it be a case of Cora blackmailing the guy and thus poor little Leopold is forced into a loveless marriage (which could help explain his negligence towards her?)?
At this point I’m just praying for Cora and Leopold to just have a meaningless flirt without any feelings and where they end up not even remembering each other years later.
(a girl can hope… right?)

I get this. OUaT does tend to end up with a whole lot of plot lines that revolve around women’s lives being ruined by the lack of love from men. It will really depend on what we see on the show, but from what I’ve understood of Cora’s character even before she took her heart out is that she is manipulative and driven to power. If she sees a prince, she sees an opportunity, and it doesn’t matter if it means she likes him or not, she will work the situation until it is in her favor. We see her flirting with Henry, her future husband, but we know she has no feelings towards him in any sense, before her heart was taken out and after it, I think it’s fair to say that Cora will not become a “revenge for love” trope, but will use the illusion of love to her advantage in any situation. 

I am praying to all deities known to men that you are right, because Cora is my favourite villain precisely because of how horrifying she is. There’s no reasoning with Cora, she only sees power and her ambitions and will destroy anyone and anything in her way to get there. It’s what made her so competent. It’s what made her so scary. There’s no redemption nor apologism for Cora and I love it.
This said, I can totally see Cora trying to play Leopold to try and raise her social status, that’s very in character for her - in fact, it’s what I expect her to do. But I still find it disturbing that there’s this whole situation of her marrying her daughter off to a man she used to be with. Not only because of how it makes Cora as a character an even more terrible villain, but because I’m very very afraid, this being OUAT, of the way they will try to come up with excuses for Leopold’s role in Regina’s life.
For me there really isn’t a way in which a “Cora and Leopold kissing” storyline can arise under a positive light. It can go any number of different ways, but right now I confess to not seeing any where there aren’t problematic implications in this for Cora and/or Regina - implications that we’ll sadly never deal with, because of OUAT’s modus operandi.

insanetwin:

ohthesefeelingz:

insanetwin:

ohthesefeelingz:

enjoythatenjoyment:

answeringconfessions:

enjoythatenjoyment:

Is this Leo? 

If this is Leo…

Ok, I said this to a friend on skype. Pretend you’re Zelena (and don’t hate Regina yet) It’s like this: 

Imagine you are abandoned forever as a baby. Just dropped off in the woods. Your bio parents had the sex and produced you, then something happened and they broke up. Your sister was born a while later. 

Your sister, during her senior year of high school, really wanted to marry the nerdy guy who smelled like hay. He was kind of shy, didn’t understand cruelty and meanness, and got his heart crushed by your mom. He was never seen again. Then your sister, 18 and a little tomboy, a little dorky with her horse tshirts and big smiles, had to get married to your father. 

That’s right. Your mom and dad agreed that your baby sister had to marry your dad. She was forced to. She ended up marrying him. Your dad. 

But maybe it’s not Leo. Maybe this guy was just pretending to be him and Leo… the person your mom thought this was… was another old bald guy your pigtailed little sis was sold off to. 

How fucked up is this family show on basic tv? 

Accept that Leopold isn’t Zelena’s dad. Cora meets Leopold after she’s already pregnant. Which she got knocked up by some drunk pretending to be a prince at a bar. Doesn’t anyone read press releases?

Accept it? Yeah, I’ll happily accept it. Maybe the guy that knocked her up is some other guy. Except that If this dude is Leo, this dude right up there, it’s still mightily fucked up for Regina later on. I mean, can you tell me what’s going on in that pic even with the press releases? I’m not sure you can, because none of us have seen the show.

What I’m about, and I’m telling you though you likely don’t care, isn’t so much figuring out what’s going on up there and more “This show is so fucked up with their family blood relationships.” And isn’t it? 

And yet, people have a hard time seeing adoption as being valid parenthood when they talk about this show. They have a hard time talking about how lgbt true love on this show could be a good thing (and I’m not just talking about SQ. I’m actually thinking more about Sleeping Warrior and how much they screwed up that pairing). 

It’s like these weird incestual relationships are perfectly ok on basic tv. Rape is fine for basic as long as there’s a tab A and slot B involved. Nothing wrong with that. God forbid Jefferson likes the D, or something god awful like that.

And just to clarify: when I say rape I’m referring to what happened to that young high school age girl with the bright smile that was married off to a guy who, in this world, would have had his AARP card for like ten years already at that point. It is just so fucked up even more that he’s a part of the story next Sunday in any form. Barf!

Let me get in this discussion by stating how thoroughly appalled I am that Cora kissing Leopold is even a possibility for next episode.

The worst that could happen is Leopold is Zelena’s father. If that is true, I will be forever bitter at OUAT and never trust the writers again. I mean, is it possible to stoop any lower than having a mother who abandons one daughter and then marries off her second daughter to the father of the first one? That is so many levels of disturbing I think I might need to go check the NC-17 episodes of Law&Order: SVU.

But lucky for us there’s other possibilities in the horizon:

- Cora and Leopold randomly hook up once but he’s not Zelena’s father

- Cora and Leopold have an affair but he’s not Zelena’s father

And, the least problematic of all options but of course, this being OUAT, still problematic:

- Cora tries to seduce Leopold but he refuses her - and this is problematic because it will imply that Cora somehow managed to have a lifelong obsession with the man to the point of giving him her daughter since she could never have him. It also cheats the viewers into thinking Leopold is not responsible for marrying an 18 year-old, with all the marital duties that come with that. No, poor little Leopold was driven into such marriage by evil Cora.

So yeah, any way we twist it, it’s horrible that OUAT decided to have Cora and Leopold kissing. It’s horrible because it’ll make a woman the most awfully, shamelessly evil villain in the entire show AND because it has such fucked up undertones of sexual abuse that it hurts me just thinking about it. Because, you know, if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her and do you know what you do with objects? You use them any way you please.

We already know Cora was an abusive monster. We did not need to live with the implications that Cora was a sexually abusive monster. Which, of course, will never be stated in the show - but it’ll be there, looming in the shadows.

if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her” This is well stated and I think it’s important to bring up because I have always thought that this is exactly the relationship Cora has (had) with her daughter.

For the majority of her life, and all of Regina’s, Cora did not possess a heart. Without it, what would keep her from seeing her daughter as only a means to accomplish what she wants. I totally understand the disgust with the implications of sexual abuse, especially if it is not treated properly on the show, but to me, Cora’s relationship with her daughter has always been this way - objectifying and heartless - until the very end where we see the immense regret she finally feels. Until then, however, we see Cora’s accepting Regina’s proposal for her, killing the only happiness she has ever known, abusing her, and even waiting in a coffin pretending to be dead so that she can kill her daughter.

I will be upset if the writers do not state what has been done to Regina or if the rest of the characters witnessing any of this do not comprehend or reflect upon this at all. If this really does happen, and it only paints a more painful picture of Regina’s mostly unspoken past without setting anything up for some type of resolution, then I really will be pissed. 

I completely understand your POV and it makes a lot of sense to me. However, one of my biggest problems with this storyline arising is that OUAT is not known for the way it deals with horrific pasts and consequences of actions, so if it is indeed true that Cora objectified Regina to the point of sexual abuse… it’ll only be brushed under the carpet never to be spoken about again. And that is deeply disturbing, because the viewers will be left with many upsetting implications and no way of coping with them.

Now, I don’t think they’d go the sexual abuse route (not consciously anyway *ahem, Regina+Graham, Regina+Leopold*), but this storyline poses problems in many other ways. Will Cora love Leopold and thus be bitter with Eva not only because she felt like scum but also because Eva took her man? Will they make Cora, a villain who so refreshingly was just about power, be yet another victim of the “revenge because of love” trope?

And if Cora was with Leopold, wouldn’t he remember her? How on earth does he end up married to her daughter? Will it be a case of Cora blackmailing the guy and thus poor little Leopold is forced into a loveless marriage (which could help explain his negligence towards her?)?

At this point I’m just praying for Cora and Leopold to just have a meaningless flirt without any feelings and where they end up not even remembering each other years later.

(a girl can hope… right?)

I get this. OUaT does tend to end up with a whole lot of plot lines that revolve around women’s lives being ruined by the lack of love from men. It will really depend on what we see on the show, but from what I’ve understood of Cora’s character even before she took her heart out is that she is manipulative and driven to power. If she sees a prince, she sees an opportunity, and it doesn’t matter if it means she likes him or not, she will work the situation until it is in her favor. We see her flirting with Henry, her future husband, but we know she has no feelings towards him in any sense, before her heart was taken out and after it, I think it’s fair to say that Cora will not become a “revenge for love” trope, but will use the illusion of love to her advantage in any situation. 

I am praying to all deities known to men that you are right, because Cora is my favourite villain precisely because of how horrifying she is. There’s no reasoning with Cora, she only sees power and her ambitions and will destroy anyone and anything in her way to get there. It’s what made her so competent. It’s what made her so scary. There’s no redemption nor apologism for Cora and I love it.

This said, I can totally see Cora trying to play Leopold to try and raise her social status, that’s very in character for her - in fact, it’s what I expect her to do. But I still find it disturbing that there’s this whole situation of her marrying her daughter off to a man she used to be with. Not only because of how it makes Cora as a character an even more terrible villain, but because I’m very very afraid, this being OUAT, of the way they will try to come up with excuses for Leopold’s role in Regina’s life.

For me there really isn’t a way in which a “Cora and Leopold kissing” storyline can arise under a positive light. It can go any number of different ways, but right now I confess to not seeing any where there aren’t problematic implications in this for Cora and/or Regina - implications that we’ll sadly never deal with, because of OUAT’s modus operandi.

April 16, 2014
insanetwin:

ohthesefeelingz:

enjoythatenjoyment:

answeringconfessions:

enjoythatenjoyment:

Is this Leo? 
If this is Leo…
Ok, I said this to a friend on skype. Pretend you’re Zelena (and don’t hate Regina yet) It’s like this: 
Imagine you are abandoned forever as a baby. Just dropped off in the woods. Your bio parents had the sex and produced you, then something happened and they broke up. Your sister was born a while later. 
Your sister, during her senior year of high school, really wanted to marry the nerdy guy who smelled like hay. He was kind of shy, didn’t understand cruelty and meanness, and got his heart crushed by your mom. He was never seen again. Then your sister, 18 and a little tomboy, a little dorky with her horse tshirts and big smiles, had to get married to your father. 
That’s right. Your mom and dad agreed that your baby sister had to marry your dad. She was forced to. She ended up marrying him. Your dad. 
But maybe it’s not Leo. Maybe this guy was just pretending to be him and Leo… the person your mom thought this was… was another old bald guy your pigtailed little sis was sold off to. 
How fucked up is this family show on basic tv? 

Accept that Leopold isn’t Zelena’s dad. Cora meets Leopold after she’s already pregnant. Which she got knocked up by some drunk pretending to be a prince at a bar. Doesn’t anyone read press releases?

Accept it? Yeah, I’ll happily accept it. Maybe the guy that knocked her up is some other guy. Except that If this dude is Leo, this dude right up there, it’s still mightily fucked up for Regina later on. I mean, can you tell me what’s going on in that pic even with the press releases? I’m not sure you can, because none of us have seen the show.
What I’m about, and I’m telling you though you likely don’t care, isn’t so much figuring out what’s going on up there and more “This show is so fucked up with their family blood relationships.” And isn’t it? 
And yet, people have a hard time seeing adoption as being valid parenthood when they talk about this show. They have a hard time talking about how lgbt true love on this show could be a good thing (and I’m not just talking about SQ. I’m actually thinking more about Sleeping Warrior and how much they screwed up that pairing). 
It’s like these weird incestual relationships are perfectly ok on basic tv. Rape is fine for basic as long as there’s a tab A and slot B involved. Nothing wrong with that. God forbid Jefferson likes the D, or something god awful like that.
And just to clarify: when I say rape I’m referring to what happened to that young high school age girl with the bright smile that was married off to a guy who, in this world, would have had his AARP card for like ten years already at that point. It is just so fucked up even more that he’s a part of the story next Sunday in any form. Barf!

Let me get in this discussion by stating how thoroughly appalled I am that Cora kissing Leopold is even a possibility for next episode.
The worst that could happen is Leopold is Zelena’s father. If that is true, I will be forever bitter at OUAT and never trust the writers again. I mean, is it possible to stoop any lower than having a mother who abandons one daughter and then marries off her second daughter to the father of the first one? That is so many levels of disturbing I think I might need to go check the NC-17 episodes of Law&Order: SVU.
But lucky for us there’s other possibilities in the horizon:
- Cora and Leopold randomly hook up once but he’s not Zelena’s father
- Cora and Leopold have an affair but he’s not Zelena’s father
And, the least problematic of all options but of course, this being OUAT, still problematic:
- Cora tries to seduce Leopold but he refuses her - and this is problematic because it will imply that Cora somehow managed to have a lifelong obsession with the man to the point of giving him her daughter since she could never have him. It also cheats the viewers into thinking Leopold is not responsible for marrying an 18 year-old, with all the marital duties that come with that. No, poor little Leopold was driven into such marriage by evil Cora.
So yeah, any way we twist it, it’s horrible that OUAT decided to have Cora and Leopold kissing. It’s horrible because it’ll make a woman the most awfully, shamelessly evil villain in the entire show AND because it has such fucked up undertones of sexual abuse that it hurts me just thinking about it. Because, you know, if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her and do you know what you do with objects? You use them any way you please.
We already know Cora was an abusive monster. We did not need to live with the implications that Cora was a sexually abusive monster. Which, of course, will never be stated in the show - but it’ll be there, looming in the shadows.

“if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her” This is well stated and I think it’s important to bring up because I have always thought that this is exactly the relationship Cora has (had) with her daughter. 
For the majority of her life, and all of Regina’s, Cora did not possess a heart. Without it, what would keep her from seeing her daughter as only a means to accomplish what she wants. I totally understand the disgust with the implications of sexual abuse, especially if it is not treated properly on the show, but to me, Cora’s relationship with her daughter has always been this way - objectifying and heartless - until the very end where we see the immense regret she finally feels. Until then, however, we see Cora’s accepting Regina’s proposal for her, killing the only happiness she has ever known, abusing her, and even waiting in a coffin pretending to be dead so that she can kill her daughter.
 I will be upset if the writers do not state what has been done to Regina or if the rest of the characters witnessing any of this do not comprehend or reflect upon this at all. If this really does happen, and it only paints a more painful picture of Regina’s mostly unspoken past without setting anything up for some type of resolution, then I really will be pissed. 

I completely understand your POV and it makes a lot of sense to me. However, one of my biggest problems with this storyline arising is that OUAT is not known for the way it deals with horrific pasts and consequences of actions, so if it is indeed true that Cora objectified Regina to the point of sexual abuse… it’ll only be brushed under the carpet never to be spoken about again. And that is deeply disturbing, because the viewers will be left with many upsetting implications and no way of coping with them.
Now, I don’t think they’d go the sexual abuse route (not consciously anyway *ahem, Regina+Graham, Regina+Leopold*), but this storyline poses problems in many other ways. Will Cora love Leopold and thus be bitter with Eva not only because she felt like scum but also because Eva took her man? Will they make Cora, a villain who so refreshingly was just about power, be yet another victim of the “revenge because of love” trope?
And if Cora was with Leopold, wouldn’t he remember her? How on earth does he end up married to her daughter? Will it be a case of Cora blackmailing the guy and thus poor little Leopold is forced into a loveless marriage (which could help explain his negligence towards Regina?)?
At this point I’m just praying for Cora and Leopold to just have a meaningless flirt without any feelings and where they end up not even remembering each other years later.
(a girl can hope… right?)

insanetwin:

ohthesefeelingz:

enjoythatenjoyment:

answeringconfessions:

enjoythatenjoyment:

Is this Leo? 

If this is Leo…

Ok, I said this to a friend on skype. Pretend you’re Zelena (and don’t hate Regina yet) It’s like this: 

Imagine you are abandoned forever as a baby. Just dropped off in the woods. Your bio parents had the sex and produced you, then something happened and they broke up. Your sister was born a while later. 

Your sister, during her senior year of high school, really wanted to marry the nerdy guy who smelled like hay. He was kind of shy, didn’t understand cruelty and meanness, and got his heart crushed by your mom. He was never seen again. Then your sister, 18 and a little tomboy, a little dorky with her horse tshirts and big smiles, had to get married to your father. 

That’s right. Your mom and dad agreed that your baby sister had to marry your dad. She was forced to. She ended up marrying him. Your dad. 

But maybe it’s not Leo. Maybe this guy was just pretending to be him and Leo… the person your mom thought this was… was another old bald guy your pigtailed little sis was sold off to. 

How fucked up is this family show on basic tv? 

Accept that Leopold isn’t Zelena’s dad. Cora meets Leopold after she’s already pregnant. Which she got knocked up by some drunk pretending to be a prince at a bar. Doesn’t anyone read press releases?

Accept it? Yeah, I’ll happily accept it. Maybe the guy that knocked her up is some other guy. Except that If this dude is Leo, this dude right up there, it’s still mightily fucked up for Regina later on. I mean, can you tell me what’s going on in that pic even with the press releases? I’m not sure you can, because none of us have seen the show.

What I’m about, and I’m telling you though you likely don’t care, isn’t so much figuring out what’s going on up there and more “This show is so fucked up with their family blood relationships.” And isn’t it? 

And yet, people have a hard time seeing adoption as being valid parenthood when they talk about this show. They have a hard time talking about how lgbt true love on this show could be a good thing (and I’m not just talking about SQ. I’m actually thinking more about Sleeping Warrior and how much they screwed up that pairing). 

It’s like these weird incestual relationships are perfectly ok on basic tv. Rape is fine for basic as long as there’s a tab A and slot B involved. Nothing wrong with that. God forbid Jefferson likes the D, or something god awful like that.

And just to clarify: when I say rape I’m referring to what happened to that young high school age girl with the bright smile that was married off to a guy who, in this world, would have had his AARP card for like ten years already at that point. It is just so fucked up even more that he’s a part of the story next Sunday in any form. Barf!

Let me get in this discussion by stating how thoroughly appalled I am that Cora kissing Leopold is even a possibility for next episode.

The worst that could happen is Leopold is Zelena’s father. If that is true, I will be forever bitter at OUAT and never trust the writers again. I mean, is it possible to stoop any lower than having a mother who abandons one daughter and then marries off her second daughter to the father of the first one? That is so many levels of disturbing I think I might need to go check the NC-17 episodes of Law&Order: SVU.

But lucky for us there’s other possibilities in the horizon:

- Cora and Leopold randomly hook up once but he’s not Zelena’s father

- Cora and Leopold have an affair but he’s not Zelena’s father

And, the least problematic of all options but of course, this being OUAT, still problematic:

- Cora tries to seduce Leopold but he refuses her - and this is problematic because it will imply that Cora somehow managed to have a lifelong obsession with the man to the point of giving him her daughter since she could never have him. It also cheats the viewers into thinking Leopold is not responsible for marrying an 18 year-old, with all the marital duties that come with that. No, poor little Leopold was driven into such marriage by evil Cora.

So yeah, any way we twist it, it’s horrible that OUAT decided to have Cora and Leopold kissing. It’s horrible because it’ll make a woman the most awfully, shamelessly evil villain in the entire show AND because it has such fucked up undertones of sexual abuse that it hurts me just thinking about it. Because, you know, if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her and do you know what you do with objects? You use them any way you please.

We already know Cora was an abusive monster. We did not need to live with the implications that Cora was a sexually abusive monster. Which, of course, will never be stated in the show - but it’ll be there, looming in the shadows.

if Cora marries her daughter off to a man she used to have sex with… That pretty much means that her daughter is nothing more than an object to her” This is well stated and I think it’s important to bring up because I have always thought that this is exactly the relationship Cora has (had) with her daughter.

For the majority of her life, and all of Regina’s, Cora did not possess a heart. Without it, what would keep her from seeing her daughter as only a means to accomplish what she wants. I totally understand the disgust with the implications of sexual abuse, especially if it is not treated properly on the show, but to me, Cora’s relationship with her daughter has always been this way - objectifying and heartless - until the very end where we see the immense regret she finally feels. Until then, however, we see Cora’s accepting Regina’s proposal for her, killing the only happiness she has ever known, abusing her, and even waiting in a coffin pretending to be dead so that she can kill her daughter.

I will be upset if the writers do not state what has been done to Regina or if the rest of the characters witnessing any of this do not comprehend or reflect upon this at all. If this really does happen, and it only paints a more painful picture of Regina’s mostly unspoken past without setting anything up for some type of resolution, then I really will be pissed. 

I completely understand your POV and it makes a lot of sense to me. However, one of my biggest problems with this storyline arising is that OUAT is not known for the way it deals with horrific pasts and consequences of actions, so if it is indeed true that Cora objectified Regina to the point of sexual abuse… it’ll only be brushed under the carpet never to be spoken about again. And that is deeply disturbing, because the viewers will be left with many upsetting implications and no way of coping with them.

Now, I don’t think they’d go the sexual abuse route (not consciously anyway *ahem, Regina+Graham, Regina+Leopold*), but this storyline poses problems in many other ways. Will Cora love Leopold and thus be bitter with Eva not only because she felt like scum but also because Eva took her man? Will they make Cora, a villain who so refreshingly was just about power, be yet another victim of the “revenge because of love” trope?

And if Cora was with Leopold, wouldn’t he remember her? How on earth does he end up married to her daughter? Will it be a case of Cora blackmailing the guy and thus poor little Leopold is forced into a loveless marriage (which could help explain his negligence towards Regina?)?

At this point I’m just praying for Cora and Leopold to just have a meaningless flirt without any feelings and where they end up not even remembering each other years later.

(a girl can hope… right?)